You f*$*ing p&%$ies will get yours! Where is little oral/anal Annie 2nite! F%#k You! You will NEVER take our clan down! HA Ha ha ha ha.....you LOSE again! and you are so full of s*&t that any govt officials are monitoring this site...you f*&king losers have no balls and no facts! Our Konnected govt officials have already told us how f*&ked up they think this blog is...we laugh in your face everyday! Long live our clan!In either case, we are disturbed that if what they say is true (and we're not sure we believe them) then the government officials we've been contacting have no interest in holding those at MVRCS accountable or to the same standards, laws, and regulations that other schools and individuals are being held to. Further, it is so incredibly disturbing to think that someone with any power or authority at the school responsible for educating our children speaks to others in this manner. They have truly shown their true colors with this (and the other equally as disturbing comments) posting. How Sad!
Friday, December 3, 2010
Did They REALLY Say That....Oh Yes, They Did!
We're not sure what is more unbelievable, that they said it or are of such questionable intelligence to have sent it from the school. What do we speak of you ask? Below is an edited copy of a reader comment that was posted on December 1, at 10:24PM. We'd like to say that this was the only such posting by this same individual, but we have numerous examples of comments equally as disturbing and vulgar. The even more UNBELIEVABLE part is that not only did they post it but that we were also able to track down where the posting originated from....yep, MVRCS. Now many would argue that it could have been written by ANY school employee, but you will see by the posting time that it was well past the end of the school day and when the alarms on the building would be set. Our guess would be that the person posting this comment is either at the school or able to use their network (one would hope that it isn't Neil Kinnon as that too would be against the Code of Ethics/Conduct allowable as a Board Member). By the tone of the message, it would appear that the individual responsible for these messages is someone who has been the blunt of our efforts towards righting the wrongs at MVRCS. Any ideas?
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And WHY should we believe that you REALLY received this in an email? You have no credibility to back up your claims anymore.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure what disturbs me more about this latest post - the threats against you or the arrogance of the poster. If what you say about tracing it to the school (I'm not so technical that I can understand how this works)is true, we need to know who this person is and have them removed from the school. Isn't it against the law to threaten people?
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous@ 8:38AM
ReplyDeleteIt wasn't received in an email, it was posted on this website. We posted it and then removed the content. We can provide you with the IP address for the person making the post and you can research it yourself if you'd like. Just let us know as we're not really keen on posting IP addresses as it could lead to bigger problems. You are also welcome to believe what you like.
again you show your lack of facts...IP's can be spoofed so easily to make it appear that a user came from anywhere. You can smear anyone you want but take exception to someone telling you off. Post the IP, it is very unlikely that you could trace it to anyone other than an ISP (ie: Verizon, Comcast, etc...). Like the Lip Reading Software you claim, it is highly unlikely that anything on this blog is truthful. And in closing, from what we have learned, you only "approve" posts that you want (you censor everything) and block IP's of those who don't agree with you...not the "free speech" model of a true blog or legitimate fact finding group. You've lost all credibility with your followers...
ReplyDelete@Anonymous8:50am: R u kidding me! That post did not threaten them! If anything, and if it really is true, it shows how much these blogsite idiots have pissed off legitimate hard working people! Where have you been to stand up for all the people who this blog creator has defamed with all thier hateful comments and unfounded allegations! This blog has turned into a joke!
ReplyDeleteWhat was the point of this post? It seems to me that you are just looking to start trouble. Clearly if you have been monitoring the comments before they are posted than this never was actually posted for public view. If you are monitoring this board for the comments, then I see nothing wrong with someone getting their POV directly to the administrator, without being shown to the public.
ReplyDeleteThere was absolutely no need for you to have posted this, other than to use a post someones rant against this blog.
Now I can see that this could be bothersome to most petty adults, but c'mon really, it's a harmless rant. Once again this just shows that this board isn't to provide information, it's a forum to form baseless facts against a board of education that YOU take issue with.
I would say this post was written by a teenager. Probably a child of one of the people you relentlessly smear on this site. The 2nite and totally random F U are a dead giveaway.
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous @ 4 11:55
ReplyDeleteWe're not trying to smear people, we're just trying to get facts and information out there in the hopes that things will change. Crazy, we know. Also, we have no issue with people telling us off but we do take issue with the threats and foul language. Sad that you can't see that.
As for lack of fact, no lack of facts here...we know how to track an ip address and it was not spoofed. As for tracing the IP address, with access to certain databases you can access more information than just the service provider. Certain databases have information like names, addresses, etc associated with IP addresses. Again, we can assure you of this.
We try very hard to only present information that we have either verified or information obtained from a trustworthy individual. As to the lip reading software, we are trying to figure out a way to provide proof or to at least correct our information if we are wrong. More to come on that.
We try to approve all reader comments and only keep back the ones that contain inappropriate language or from individuals such as above. The individuals that attempt to intimidate or harass the site with bible quotes do get banned for a short time just to stop them. Sorry.
As for losing all credibility with our readers, we think not, especially not from the emails we've been receiving from others.
Wow it seems as most of the above comments could well have come from the school. An IP address can be found with a subpoena. I don't know what system this blog uses, but I do know that everything anyone writes is permanent and can be traced.
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous @ December 4, 2010 11:59 AM
ReplyDeleteFirst off, you may wish this site has turned into a joke but it hasn't. No one has been defamed, outed for wrongdoings possible, but not defamed. Also, don't you think the hateful comments come from others more than us? Interesting that the people that seem the most upset by this blog are those who for whatever reason think that the illegal and questionable practices of Neil Kinnon and a few others at the school are acceptable. I'm not sure I would classify some of the individuals as 'legitimate hard working' but it would depend on what one feels constitutes as 'legitimate' and 'hard working'.
If you are a parent and you did not find that post inappropriate and of a threatening nature, then we feel for your child. We're sure that if someone wrote it to your child or you, you may have very different feelings.
To December 4, 2010 5:39 PM
ReplyDeleteWhat was the point? The first couple of posts like this we did ignore and just did not post them but this individual continues to write these things and some are MUCH worse. We feel it is deplorable that an individual from MVRCS wrote this, regardless of our differences in opinion. If they want to rant or share their point of view, threats are NOT the way to do it. Also, it was posts like this that required us to start monitoring the posts which no likes us doing. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THIS BEHAVIOR POSTERS BEHAVIOR, IT IS DOWNRIGHT INEXCUSABLE, INAPPROPRIATE, AND UNNECESSARY. Do not take issue with us in exposing it. Are not the least bit interested in which school official wrote this? Interesting if not.
Andrew25 -
ReplyDeleteIt came from the MVRCS IP address at 10:24 at night when the building is locked and alarmed. Yes, a teacher may use the VPN to check email but not to let their child surf from their work computer. Besides, the history would now be on the computer for MVRCS to see that they came to this site - big no, no.
Now if an individual had their home wired to the school's IP service, that may be a different story but no teacher or staff person would be permitted to do that. I wonder if Neil Kinnon is seeing as he lives so close? Any thoughts?
and there you go again, telling people how YOU think they should parent. Your last comment says it all..."If you are a parent and you did not find that post inappropriate and of a threatening nature, then we feel for your child" Why can't your comments just be facts, and not your personal opinions?
ReplyDeleteIf you are going to get this defensive, apparently you do not have a thick enough skin to run a blog, that has so many false claims.
By the way, exactly what do you find threatening about the post? You'll get yours? That could mean anything, for example... a christmas bonus, a free subscription to Womans Day, a good parking space at the mall...your monthly friend... Don't be so quick to judge that it is a negative thought.
ReplyDeleteHey Unofficial: Post your IP address and we'll show you how easy it is to spoof it with a post to this blog! Also, again, we highly doubt you have any true evidence that the school site was used at all and other than static IP's that are registered in "some of these databases" you reference, users of dynamic IP ranges used by most ISP's would only have limited info which is tightly controlled and only accessible (if it exists) via a subpoena...so, again, we doubt you have any such information and if you did, you obtained it illegally and have broken the law. Oh, and we love the comment on the lip reading software that has now gone from a "true fact" to now you are trying to figure out if it is indeed true...your entire blog is full of BS that can't be verified and here's another example!
ReplyDeleteLOL...you think you were "threatened"??? What a joke! You spread more hate and smear that anyone who sends comments about this "so so sad" blog! And, as the other posted commented, you as the admin of the site is the only one who receives comments before they are posted publicly so you could have chosen NOT to post this as you have clearly done with many other posts that you decide not to approve because you don't agree with them...there was nothing stated that personally threatened you in that post your displayed but clearly shows that you have pissed off quite a few people with your untruthful commentary and irresponsible posting of things that you can't prove but decide to smear people based on heresay...you are a great example of what is wrong with america today!
ReplyDeleteWow, the troops are out in full force trying to deflect this one....it's ok guys, your master is proud of all of your efforts.
ReplyDeleteThe problem here is that unlike the Board Meetings where parents have NO say, here everyone has a say, whether we like what they have to say or not. It's more than Neil Kinnon and the Board of Trustees can say.
Not to worry, the skin is pretty tough on this end but maybe not so much on yours. Who knows.
First of all, I don't know Kinnon, nor have I ever met him. I find no need to defend him, any post I make is defending a school that you are hell bent on tearing down, as much as you say you are not... clearly you are.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, how do we know that you haven't parked near the school and tapped into their wireless to post fake comments to build up your followers? You seem to be technically advanced enough to do that.
To UnOfficial MVRCS
ReplyDeleteI love this blog. I congratulate you on the many hours that you are spending on it. It is nice to see that parents finally have a voice at the school albeit anonymous.
Thank you
Now there's some serious ass kissing!
ReplyDeleteignored my comment again.... you're on a roll!
ReplyDeleteI am with December 5, 2010 5:29 PM. I agree that this blog has opened up the eyes of a lot of people and I thank you for this. Too many children have been hurt by Mr. Kinnection's actions for way too many years. One of my child included. I have always said that one day this will catch up with him. It has with this blog. Now I am just waiting for the Attorney General to investigate his misdeeds. Then I will truly be a happy parent.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone else notice that some of the anti-site posters will discredit anything and everything that the writers of this blog write yet make excuses for the BS that the school does? Talk about losing credibility, the language, tone, and unwillingness to hold the school accountable goes much further in discrediting many of the posts from individuals who don't like this site.
ReplyDeleteWhether you agree with the method or not, this site does provide insight into the operations at the school and apparently the maturity level of some of the parents. Also interesting that no one from the school themselves have ever identified themselves on here to discredit anything said.
So when something is written here that is obviously incorrect (which is nearly everything) I should just say job well done and call it a day? I don't think that works for me.
ReplyDeleteTo December 5, 2010 12:47 AM
ReplyDeleteIt is our understanding that they do not have wireless and/or that the network is firewalled and can not be accessed without the use of a VPN. Regardless, we wouldn't do that as we are not looking to destroy the school or cause unnecessary probmlems but to just implement some necessary changes that would be for the good of ALL students.
Andrew25: I don't see much of your refuting anything that is said here except to attack the posters. You have yet to disprove anything this site brings up about the school which they feel is wrong. Are you really ok with everything the school does? Do you even have a child at the school or just like to shoot your mouth off?
ReplyDeleteI just enjoy shooting my mouth off.
ReplyDeleteMV can you do me a favor? Hunt this person down and send me their name.
Thank you in advance for your cooperation in this matter.
Andrew25
Andy -
ReplyDeleteCan't do it, they asked a few valid questions and didn't attack you or say anything mean spirited to you. Can you do me a favor, could you tell me if your loyalty to the school is as a result of your friendship with Greg? Just curious....
Greg? You must have gotten this from the same place you get all your other info. And you wonder why I don't trust what is written here!
ReplyDeleteDesperate measures by despicable person(s) Last week in desperation made up the "lip reading camera's" then when that started south and just about everyone finally knew this was all BS you made the last desperate attempt to gain sympathy with this BS you did yourself. Reminds me of typical union(communist) ploys of old. Burn down your own house and claim it was the enemy. Everyones on to you now. What a sham. Of course this post will either never make it or quickly dissappear because its a real parent. Better yet your insider posted it from their computer at the school didn't they at your direction. Great strategy.
ReplyDeleteHey I have to point out bullsh*t when I see it. An IP address CAN NOT be tracked to a physical location i.e. home/building. Think about how terrible that would be with all the pedophiles in the world. What can be traced is the ISP location i.e. Verizon / Comcast etc... Sorry, but whoever posted this has zero credibility... just sayin
ReplyDeleteTo Anonymous @ Dec 8, 917pm
ReplyDeleteFOrtunately, we are neither desperate nor despicable but nice one liner.
Also, we didn't post it ourselves nor did we 'direct' another to do post it from the school. It was a legitimate posting from an ip address that we have absolutely no control over. We don't have to make up 'desperate attempts to gain sympathy' as we are not looking for sympathy, we are seeking action, change, positives. As for the lip reading device, still trying to figure out a way to verify. We'll get back to you on that one.
To Father of 2 -
ReplyDeleteYes, it can and it can be traced to an individual as well. Little lesson for you (feel free to try this at home), take an IP address and google or yahoo it. Sometimes (not always), if someone from that ip address has posted in a forum or other open web site from that ip address, you can track it down. Now here is another way to track down information - ready this one is tricky. Every time we send an email, the ip address of the router used to transmit the message (or send the message and internet service) is logged within the message. If you know how (and it isn't too difficult) anyone can find the ip address within the email. Now, take this scenerio one step further, say someone sent another (legitimate) email to someone from the same IP address and guess what, you can now identify the person, family, house, or business that sent it. This may be too technical for you but see, yes, it can be done. At the same time, databases exist that you can buy into that have access to even more identifying features.
So, long story short, not only were we able to determine that the post originated from an ip address registered to MVRCS, we also did not have to instruct anyone to send it - they did that all on their own. Thanks for playing though.
and there you go, talking down to people again. Do you realize how rude your replies are? You are often saying that you feel bad for children of parents that post on these comments, but if that is the way you walk your kids through a lesson, then it is those children who should be pitied.
ReplyDeleteTrust me they can do this. I still say this post was written by a kid. Not that it means much either way.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to your obsession over board meetings?
To :) at December 9th 2:49pm
ReplyDeleteWe weren't talking down to Father of Two, we were giving him a hard time as he said "Hey I have to point out bullsh*t when I see it. An IP address CAN NOT be tracked to a physical location i.e. home/building". We were actually thinking he knew much of what we were explaining but just trying to discredit us. Think of it as when a child who has gone down the slide a zillion times suddenly states that they can't do it. It's that 'REALLY?' type of statement.
BTW - we liked your identifying smiley face. Cute.
ReplyDeletemmm yeah, I don't see it that way. You have negative responses to everyone that posts a disagreeing comment on here.
ReplyDeleteAndrew25 -
ReplyDeleteThank you for sticking up for us for once! Wow, will wonders never cease!
As for the Open Meeting issue, still working on it but just not on here. Thanks for asking though.
Andrew25 -
ReplyDeleteDid you see the agenda and announcement for the meeting tonight? I'm sure you did but just in the event you didn't, let me share with you this time!
http://www.mvrcs.com/files/decboardmeeting.pdf